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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Oct 8, 2010 11:28am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: changing names of songs already online

thanks Dave,

Very cool of you to update and explain the "updated" re-derive task to us.

I clearly remember the old way. Audio Item admins like myself had to first remove their "derived-files" manually. Then we executed the re-derive tasks. Until now, I assumed this was still the case.

What Scoogy is saying is exactly the case for me and my tape recordings. I'm coming back later and fixing numerous unknown track titles on my recordings. My tapes are over 30 years old. Most of my tapes are over 35 years old. I was a Taper and a Soundman. Me and the bands, artists, and musicians never kept in touch after 1977. Tracking some of them down over 30 years later, and getting most of their "permissions" in order, was my greatest challenge. Getting my computer "tooled up" and learning how to do the transfers and remastering myself was my next accomplishment.

I have tried to refrain from doing any more re-derives on several of my Audio Items. This is due to The Archive's discontinuation of their 64kbps derivatives. I am trying to keep these 64kbps derivative files included in my items for as long as I can. Some people still suffer from bandwidth limitations, and they use the 64kbps files to stream from The Archive.

Several of my Items have their track names corrected in the meta-data editor, but they are not yet corrected in the Flash Player listing. This is how I've managed my Items thus far. Listeners and clients have given me feedback on many missing names. Some are helping me with name corrections.

Question: If I were to re-derive an item(s) of mine, while leaving my 64kbps derivatives "in place" (undeleted), would the re-derive task blow away my 64kbps derivative files? I believe the answer to my question is "Yes".

Sorry (in advance) if I may have confused anyone.


my tapes listed

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Poster: greenone Date: Oct 8, 2010 12:29pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: changing names of songs already online

Yes, re-derives will delete any existing 64kbps mp3 files. You can always upload your own versions if you want to, post re-derive, though I'm not sure if they'd be listed on the same line as the flac/vbr mp3/ogg files, or if they'd be in a separate section. Never tried it before, honestly.

Might be better to test with a newer show that didn't have them created to begin with - create them on your own, and upload to an existing show.

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Oct 8, 2010 1:32pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: changing names of songs already online

Thanks, Dave.


Putting up your own ZIP files is totally cool here. This is very useful for upping an entire PHOTO Collection of your band, and sharing them here. The result is that clients browsing your Items can easily download an entire photo collection of the band. Putting their photos in your Items using a single Zip archive file is a nice perk for Admins. No clutter, no muss, no fuss. I used HTML on my Items to enhance them. I have added photos, links to YouTube clips, some historical comments, information about bands' sound equipment, and several firsthand accounts of things that I witnessed.

Awhile back I snatched up Rhino's Grateful Dead photo collection from the Lossless Legs site (private torrent site) by leeching the torrent there. When I looked on's web site, run by Rhino, I noticed they have the same GD photo collection publicly available in their photo archives. Using either source still leaves many clients unable to easily get their hands on this collection, imo.

So I made a ZIP archive file for the entire GD photo collection. Then I upped it into an Item of mine for Grateful Dead tapes that I recorded. Thanks for the privileges. I thought that was fun.

Grateful Dead photo collection - 937 JPGs in a Zip archive file - 260MB